Chat, Porn, and a moderation issue

Discussion in 'Issues & Reports' started by Reeeeer, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Reeeeer

    Reeeeer New Member

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    Alright so many of ya'll know me as the one who got banned for adding links to smut books.
    Once I got banned for 7 days for doing so, I harshly learned my lesson.
    After a week or so, I began playing this server in good faith. But as I played this server, I saw the chat had became increasing a cesspool of garbage ranging from race relations to LGBT stuff.

    Then outta nowhere, I saw someone linked a to adult website in chat.

    Appalled, I had message the admin for a quick removal of this person for 7 days (like how I was treated when I had links in those novels).

    To my surprised, this person got off scot free with a warning.

    Unbelievable.

    When I was banned, I had no warnings or nothing. Just a swift ban after a short protest.

    So why didn't I received a warning?
     
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  2. GNAWERS

    GNAWERS New Member

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    Are we using my titles as the new post style now? Sweet.

    I agree with you, that's ridiculous. I hope you find justice.
     
  3. Tamsin

    Tamsin Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I believe the reason you were banned was to keep you from making more books, because you had spread an unknown number of these books around and they needed to be hunted down as best the staff could and destroyed. Of course, I wasn't there for this issue, so it's only speculation really. When people enter banned things into chat, they get one warning to stop before action is taken, and if they do stop they can go about their merry way and have fun playing the game. However, if they keep going, then they could either be muted, or banned, depending on the situation. Your situation was different because it was in a book that could be copied infinitely and spread very far on the server with the staff none the wiser, and thus was seen as a more serious offence than just a chat infraction. I hope this bit of explanation helps you.
     
  4. AnarchicMuse

    AnarchicMuse Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Hello,

    From a staffing perspective there are two different incidents occurring here, which both are now covered by rules on the server. The first is the posting of links in chat which is covered by the following rule:

    No spamming or advertising.
    a) Only links leading to Applecraft.org are allowed.

    This situation is viewed as a chat offense and thus we punish according to guidelines we have to handle links in chat, which include giving a player a warning and then temporarily muting them if they continue to do the thing they were warned about.

    The second is the recent events surrounding the distribution of books containing adult content which has prompted a rules addition.

    No pornographic material including but not limited to sexually explicit books and map art
    a) You will be temporarily banned for 7 days on first offence!

    In the case of books being distributed with pornographic material, there is an unknown amount of people that are affected by this and it also is not immediately apparent to staff that this is even happening due to how it is spread around. Therefore, it is harder for us as a staff team to respond to that situation since books can be continuously copied as long as there is at least one copy out there. The link is gone once chat moves along and only affects the people that are online to see it.

    Furthermore, the distribution of pornographic content on Applecraft is a lot more damaging to the server than someone posting a link in chat, especially if this material falls into the hands of people that are underage, even if there is a age warning on the content. Due to its seriousness, the aforementioned rule has been added to address this situation and prevent it from happening again in the future.

    To summarize, links in chat are handled as chat offenses while pornographic books are handled as more serious and specialized incidences which are warranting of a more severe punishment according to updated rules.

    Please feel free to check out the updated rules here: http://applecraft.org/community/index.php?wiki/blue-rules/

    Thanks, Muse.
     
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  5. Batarian

    Batarian Member

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    Your points are fair, but what about when Reeeeer has already been punished, while this user Reeeeer talks about does it every day and gets ignored? Also, they don't post it once, they do it multiple times. It's not a single, once in a moon, occurrence.
     
  6. Reeeeer

    Reeeeer New Member

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    for the book copying thing, only the original can get copy. that means if someone receives a copy of a book, they can't copy it.

    i understand the rules, but my question was why i didn't get any warnings? i was told by an admin i should've receive one.
     
  7. ShadowDelux

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    You can make copies of the copy. Allowing it to be distributed further and possibly infinitely.
     
  8. sethreborn4

    sethreborn4 New Member

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    @Reeeeer , from your first post it was clear that you kinda set a precedent and so, perhaps it wasnt handled fantastically. I will always maintain that your ban was unfair, but it was the basis for laying down the rules and procedure for future incidences of that kind so as to avoid any claims of unfairness in the future.

    I realise that will be of little consolation to you, but it answers your question.
     
  9. Reeeeer

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    nah its cool lol
     

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