Fix the ban system

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lil_Chooch, Apr 24, 2019.

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  1. Lena Pyro

    Lena Pyro Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Still a flaw. Younger player's parents sometimes don't allow them to be on the forums or Discord.
     
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  2. Gab

    Gab Member

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    So let me get this straight Mr.Cooch. You claim that you were falsely banned but why. Why would they ban you? It's not for fun, I've been a moderator before on another server and it really isn't fun especially when they are a donor rank. Second, the mods don't get paid on a basis of "However many xray bans" or "however many killaura bans." I agree a better anticheat would be nice though. And finally, as many have already stated, the system has worked fine for several years. I would know because I am a loser with no life so I spent time looking through every single past ban appeal and I can only recall 3 situations in which moderators have been incorrect. No one is "out to get you." Hope this helps,
    -PD
     
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  3. Lil_Chooch

    Lil_Chooch New Member

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    Once again not everything is 100% ur a follower with now backbone for them selves, I’m offering just a suggestion that would improve the ban system, make what you want of it but at this point ur just crying for attention
     
  4. Lil_Chooch

    Lil_Chooch New Member

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    First off I never said anyone was “out to get me” you are putting words in my mouth, unrightfully banned isn’t just banning when ever you want and who ever you want it can also mean that what they did was false and they should look more careful, and really the system has been “working” for seven years. Usually things that are 7 years old are outdated because now there are easier ways of finding out who is actually hacking instead of just relying the human eye... “I hope this helps”
     
  5. Lil_Chooch

    Lil_Chooch New Member

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    Once again if you can actually read what I have said multiple times is that I’m not a staff and it’s up to them what they wanna do
     
  6. Gab

    Gab Member

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    You misquote me. I said Several years, not seven. Also I do agree, there are unjust bans and not just because the mod could be lying or not. But really I cant say anything about the ban itself because there isn't enough info about either side. But again, the system has been working. And I garuntee you that there have been players banned falsely but not unbanned. I dont know your situation, therefore i cant say. I can say that people are human and that applies to both mod and player. I also agree that it should be updated but staying on the forums waiting for someone to respond wont get you unbanned mate so i suggest just sitting down and putting it put of your mind for a while
     
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  7. MelonMarauda

    MelonMarauda Master Teapot

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    A discord call? Really? All you have to do is delete the x-ray pack the moment you realise why you're being called and woooow the x-ray pack is gone o:

    A blacklist? It is far to easy to get around a blacklist. Sure we will catch plenty of morons but it won't stop anything. It will assist the mods but they don't really need that since they're still successfully catching people, like in this case right here, with you. Also a whitelist would be better, allow people to submit texture packs for review and whitelisting that way any and all x-ray packs would not be allowed. Is that even possible though?

    And a new anti cheat. Have you played on applecraft? The last thing it needs is a new plugin adding to the lag. The mods do a fine job, it's why they're there. And unless we use some crazy proprietary system, and correct me if I'm wrong I haven't gone looking in a while, I don't think there are effective plugins for catching xrayers since it is not immediately obvious if someone is or isn't unlike fly hacking. Also what happens if the plugin falsely bans you? If you want to suggest the plugin would be more accurate at finding xrayers if it falsely bans a bunch then what? It would make reviewing the bans on a case by case basis more difficult since mods would have to go and investigate after the ban.

    Applecraft has attracted haters for ages, we have falsely banned people before and they were swiftly unbanned because there was no evidence. Other people swear by their family that they weren't cheating but the evidence was there. The system works, simple as that.
     
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  8. Lena Pyro

    Lena Pyro Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If you would like to have an actual conversation, insulting the person you're conversing with doesn't make you credible even a little bit.
     
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  9. Lena Pyro

    Lena Pyro Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    It is clear to me that you are upset that you got caught. If you were truly innocent, you would have been privately having this discussion with a Mod or Admin, trying to explain what happened rather than making a thread and drawing attention to yourself and insulting people who are commenting and responding with sensible feedback.

    It is better for you to just come clean and apologize. Everyone appreciates someone who can be honest and respectful when they have done something wrong.
     
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  10. ZhuCaan

    ZhuCaan New Member

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    They take the time to look but they still arent always correct. see: https://applecraft.org/community/index.php?threads/was-i-really-xraying-though.12740/
    no hard feelings for the staff but it is a wee bit flawed. It would be nice if people where treated innocent until proven guilty. Its not that easy to do this with a minecraft server. Its easier to botch justice on this because its such a high volume of cases for the staff team.

    Edit: It is a refreshing idea to change the ban system but it just cant be done given circumstances. - Zhu
     

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