Please remove the rules against casinos

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  1. Lobster2u

    Lobster2u New Member

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    The rule agaisnt gambling is dumb in my opinion since we are just playing minecraft and i Think that it wouldnt matter if ppl made small casinos and Gambling Machines.

    Most other Survival smps allow Gambling and Casinos.

    Plus if something is gambling the keys is since you have no idea what you are gonna get and you can also buy keys for irl Money

    Tho if you allow casinos make a rule against fake scaming casinos
     
  2. albasant

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    The issue with casinos is that they are difficult and tedious to moderate because people inevitably complain that they are somehow unfair. Its just too much hassle to allow private non-staff run casinos.
     
  3. xXMooseBeardXx

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    Suggestion : Could we just move it to a policy as " gamble at your own risk" and move it to the Red sever only, Since it's pretty savage anyways, Regardless if the Casino and or Gambling Machines are a scam, it would be up to the player base to decided Who is legit or not, Just like / accept tp, Moderation not needed if it's a agreed community rule, Im also Bias for Red ;3
     
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  4. Addeve

    Addeve Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    Games can be rigged super easily to become scams which is why this rule is in place
     
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  5. Mathew762eml

    Mathew762eml New Member

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    Can we therefore get %odds for the loot crates/deck of many things? Clarity would be nice.
     
  6. Addeve

    Addeve Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    Can you clarify what you mean by the loot crate percents? Like the items inside of them you mean? That personally I'm not sure of, unless you mean the regular crates, which is an equal probability of getting any item, same with the deck of many things.
     
  7. Noxxy

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    There's absolutely no way the crate items have equal probability. I've gotten 3 blaze reaps, 4 leviosas, 3 gillyweeds, 3 of the xp bottles, 3 shadowfax and 4 or 5 of the rank tokens. Have not gotten even one of the fancy effect books despite opening around 25 keys this month between me and DankPeterGriffin.
     
  8. smbailey

    smbailey Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    There are 22 items in the crate, so each would have a probability of 1/22 or about 4.5%. The odds of not getting the specific item you are looking for after 25 attempts is (1-0.045)^25 or about 32%. Sounds like a bit of bad luck, but not completely unreasonable.
     
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  9. Addeve

    Addeve Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    Guess it's like Monopoly where the probability you land on any space is the same really but nobody seems to land on Boardwalk.
     
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  10. Raijikin

    Raijikin The very best no-one ever was Staff Member Moderator

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    But addeve... In monopoly not every place has the same chance of landing cause of the chance cards and community chest smh plus the added probability that you land on 7 is the most common number when you roll...
     
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  11. xXMooseBeardXx

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    Okay , i understand the rule, I get that, "It's too much hassle", but with the previous notes i have provided why would it be even an issue if the rule was changed to the previous suggestion. Personally im not contending the rule or lack of understanding it , but, more so , suggesting we change the rule to something that was suggested, I will go on to say this however, . Say player goes and plays a game, pays a diamond and gets dirt, pays 10 more diamonds and gets 9 dirt and 1 db, Would this be a considered a scam? Or the luck of the draw, When playing a game of chance your pay for the chance to ideally to win more chances with the base currency , not the actual item back it's self plus profit. If someones salty about this then they should not have accepted a tp from someone lol
     
  12. Addeve

    Addeve Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    The other suggestion of gamble at your own risk is still a problem. As I said, games can be easily rigged, and people naturally finding themselves continuing to gamble.

    You can win some smaller gambles, then take a big loss if A) you simply lose or B) the person rigs the game when you make a big gamble.

    Even with a "gamble at your own risk" rule, people would still be salty also if they lose or if they get scammed.
     
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  13. zachattackp1

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    I didn’t know that I had caused such an uproar when I mentioned the rules last night haha
     
  14. xXMooseBeardXx

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    So, The rule is in place to stop people from getting salty? or to stop people from feeling they got scammed when no trade took place? Im not trying to pester you at all on this, im in the same boat that if a game is rigged you would stay away from it/ area. For instance i could make a game that gives a roughly equal amount of prizes ranging from boot to DB, If you got the boot, thats a scam? I feel strongly the rule is erroneous at best and is only there as not to promote gambling addictions as it would look poorly on the sever? Am i in the ball park in this assumption? Im calling shanngians ! LOL
     
  15. TheSarchasm

    TheSarchasm Ancient Being Unbound from Time and Space Staff Member Moderator

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    Realistically, I could make a slot machine and claim that you have the potential to win any number of cool prizes, and then just not put the prizes in there at all. Just load that mofo up with dirt blocks and poison potatoes. Or I could put 200,000 dirt blocks and a single rare in there so that your odds are 200000:1 and still advertise it as a slot machine where you can win rares.
     
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  16. Lornon001

    Lornon001 Grumpy Staff Member Moderator

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    I could make a machine that has zero chance of giving you a none stackable item, even if it's in the machine to hold face. So yea I think the rule will more than likely stay in place.
     
  17. Wille

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    the fourth colour set is the highest earning due to higher landing statistics. jail and other effects of cards change the probabilities. also dice is not an equal chance roll if theres 2 dice. ever play catan?
     
  18. xXMooseBeardXx

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    Then ideally i would Not play at your place and talk smack about it saying out of 100 times of diamond plays i got dirt, Thus Your rep for being a legit casino would be nill, Would it be possible to get Certified by mods and such with something like a 64 db fee? That way it would be better odds that the diamond to dirt ratio would be less of an event
     
  19. TheSarchasm

    TheSarchasm Ancient Being Unbound from Time and Space Staff Member Moderator

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    Right. But you would have spent that money at my location with the promise of a chance to win goods that, remember, do not exist. Talk all the smack against my fine establishment that you want. I'd have scammed you out of money. That's kinda the point here.

    ...And no, the staff are not going to "certify" casinos.
     
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  20. xXMooseBeardXx

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    So , Can i become staff for the single purpose of making a legit casino ? LOL XD Okay i digress on the topic, but i agree for all the above reasons the rule is dumb. GG
     

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